Posted by: James Atticus Bowden | May 28, 2017

They Hate Our Dead

Robert Holland, 2 SC Infantry – killed Battle of Seven Pines (just one of our family war dead) and his brother, my GG-Grandfather Daniel Webster Holland, 2 SC Infantry – surrendered April 1865.  I admire them greatly.  How demented to hate these men and the monuments to their courage, honor and fidelity  – and leaders.

They Hate Our Dead

Memorial Day 2017

They want to tear down every Confederate statue and memorial. They hate so much that they hate our dead.

They demand the cultural cleansing of Virginia because:

  • Confederate monuments honor slavery and racism. No. The monuments honor the soldiers and leaders. You choose to see slavery when you actually look at the statue of a soldier.
  • But, they fought for slavery and racism. SMH. Bless your heart.
    • Was our American Revolution about taxes or the right to tax? A key issue for some states in our War Between the States was the state right to allow or ban slavery. For other states, like Virginia, it was about Lincoln ordering Virginia to conquer South Carolina and invading armies through Virginia to do so. For, the Civilized Indian Tribes in Oklahoma it was different altogether.
    • Slavery wasn’t the central aspect in the very divisive banking, tariff, tax issues, etc.
    • My GG-Grandfather’s brother, Robert Holland, wrote, “if we give the Yankees one more ‘breshing’ out maybe they will leave us alone.” They believed slavery was a sin against God. They, like many, fought against the invading armies – period.
    • Life and war aren’t the PC cartoon history of “Presentism”.
    • Does the argument that Confederate Americans fought – de facto – for slavery apply to our Patriots in the American Revolution? Every new U.S. state had slavery in 1776. The Brits offered slaves their freedom.  America kept slavery – recognized it in the 1787 Constitution.  The Founders and Confederates, alike, were fighting for independence, not for slavery.
    • Racism was North and South. States decided on their own to end slavery one by one – slowly. 19 of 24 Northern states restricted Blacks’ right to vote. Connecticut voters denied Blacks the right to vote in 1865! Michigan and Wisconsin denied full rights to free Blacks in 1865 after the South surrendered.
  • But, slavery is the worst, unpardonable sin. Really? Is an armed invasion of the neighboring people you’ve lived with in peace actually moral?
    • Are war crimes, like making my G-Grandmother deaf at the age of 8 in an act of terrorism, justified because her state allowed human bondage?
    • Does slavery stain our Revolution and all the Yankees who got rich shipping slaves and milling the cotton they picked? Grant owned a slave until 1859. His wife’s family owned slaves during the War. Take down their monuments and erase their names?
    • Since slavery is awful, why aren’t the self-righteous prigs fighting to free the slaves that Muslims still hold in Africa? Is moral outrage selective in time and place?
  • But, they committed treason. No Confederate was tried for treason. They would have won in court. The Founders make the argument for our 1787 Constitution in the Federalist Papers clearly – the States are sovereign. See the 10th Amendment. Americans first loyalty, legally, was to their state. When states leave a voluntary union, it is treason to not go with your state.
  • But, it offends some people. People chose to be offended. There is no right to not be offended. Toleration should be a two way street. Live and let live.
    • It offends many people that monuments honoring their heritage are found offensive.
    • It offends many without a blood connection to the War that history haters want to erase history like other Totalitarians always do.
  • But, it hurts some people. Who are these weak cowards, these snowflakes, who suffer from a silent statue?
    • The descendants of slaves should be stronger. No people on earth ever came up as far, as fast, over such obstacles, as well as Blacks in America from 1865 to 1965. They, who actually overcame, would be ashamed of these crybabies.
    • We can teach all children to take pride in progress as well as the reflected glory in great valor and courage praised by the Yankees who actually fought Confederates.
  • But, it shouldn’t be in the public square. If future generations have half the courage of Confederates, then America will survive well.
    • More Virginians died defending Virginia than in all the wars put together. Such sacrifice and tragedy belongs in public.
    • Learn right lessons. We never want another civil war. But, when other war comes we want to fight with the tenacity of Virginians past.
    • Confederate veterans are American veterans by law – see U.S. Code. Confederate graves are in Arlington National Cemetery.
    • Our Virginia history belongs to all Virginians. If history is divided by identity politics then E Pluribus Unum is in danger as much as Sic Semper Tyrannis is.  We, Virginians, share a common past, present and future.

Hey, Totalitarians, “Do you really hate my ancestors?” How sick and twisted is your hatred?

Shame on you.

Confederate veterans are American veterans. Their widows created Memorial Day.

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Responses

  1. Another excellent article! Thank you for this timely, indeed, urgently needed history lesson.

  2. a shame this country has gone to hell in a handbasket. ..

  3. I’m not prepared to concede defeat! I have failed, most of my life, to understand how to fight this battle. I’ve lobbied, run for office, written letters, blah, blah, blah…I failed to fight with the weapons Our Almighty Father created for us, which are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of Strongholds! We are up against principalities, powers of darkness, manifest in Satanic pedophiles, i.e., Tony & John Podesta, Clintons, etc. I am waging war in the heavens, on my knees, by His Blood and in His name.

    • Oops! My typo. I meant it is NOT over! Keep running the race. Thanks for what you’ve done.

  4. Excellent work

  5. Well said sir!

  6. Outstanding and well said sir!

  7. Reblogged this on Citizen Tom and commented:
    Here of late I have written several posts arguing in favor of keeping the monuments from the Civil War that memorialize the rebels who fought for the Confederacy. However, I am not a native Southerner, just someone who likes Virginia and decided to stay. My parents were born in northern flyover country. They were descendants of immigrants who arrived after the Civil War.

    Hence my interest in the Civil War is that it is part of the history that made my homeland, America, what it is. I read accounts of the Civil War, and I am awed. The monuments scattered about the state help to make it real.

    There are other perspectives. The descendants of the men who fought the Civil War can each provide their own. When they look at the monuments, they can see a reminder of the massive conflict in which their forebears participated. Here is one such example.

  8. The cause of the South in the Civil War was to preserve the states’ right to have slavery. People in the South fought for things other than slavery, but the right of the states they fought for was the right to own people as slaves.

    As William Tappan Thompson says in support of the second national flag for the CSA, ” “As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.”

    • The state right of slavery was at the nexus of almost every contention. But, it wasn’t the only issue. Just as a tax wasn’t the only issue in the Revolution. Our revolution was about the right to tax. The right to have slavery and the right to tax are both emphasizing rights. Those who can’t see past the word – slavery – and all the emotion it carries in today’s Presentism, miss the importance of Rights for so many who actually fought. It’s easy to pull quotes on Northern racism – and show the changes to northern state laws and constitutions to dis-enfranchise Blacks AFTER the South was defeated. That doesn’t change the impetus on Union in the North and Rights in the South.

      • First, the South had no right to secede. Andrew Jackson made that clear when he sent troops to South Carolina to enforce the tariffs.

        The states have no right to legislate what is a moral wrong. They have no right to secede to protect a moral wrong.

        In the founding document of our nation, Jefferson makes clear the basis for separation. In the founding document of the CSA, the basis is slavery. It is explicit and it is and always will be the issue of the war.

      • I taught US Government at West Point. You’d have to listen carefully in class to correct the mistakes you are making. The Constitution is a voluntary union. Virginia and other states explicitly stated in their ratification the conditions for terminating the union. The states have plenary powers. Individuals have rights. The plenary powers include having official religions – which all new states did until Virginia lead the way to separation in 1787. The immorality of slavery preceded our Revolution, yet the institution existed. It existed in slave states that didn’t secede until the 13th Amendment was passed – After the war. The Declaration of Independence cites the reason for our illegal rebellion against the UK. Each state and the civilized Indian Tribes cited their reasons for legally leaving a voluntary union. Best wishes.

      • “The Constitution is a voluntary union.” And one that is and was irreversible. There was no basis in the Constitution for secession. There was no basis in the Articles of Confederation.

        The Virginia Federal Convention did not so raise those conditions, either in debate or in the final proclamation of ratification. Nothing in South Carolina’s ordinance seceding from the Union makes any reference to such a condition.

        The states do not, however, have plenary power to contradict the supreme law of the law i.e. the constitution.

        Also, since you taught at West Point, you should be familiar with the concept in international law wherein an independent state is such a state when they are recognized. None of the southern states had received recognition as independent states when they were in the Union or when they confederated. Just as the Syrian opposition’s republic is unrecognized, so also were the confederate states unrecognized.

        Furthermore, Andrew Jackson’s actions during the Nullification Crisis is ample evidence as to whether states could secede. States had particular sovereignty within the union, but under the Constitution and international law, as Jackson makes clear, they had no sovereignty independent from the union. The fact that France and Britain only granted belligerent status to the Confederacy is even more evidence to refute the idea that the states had any independent sovereignty.

      • Please read this: “WE the Delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected in pursuance of a recommendation from the General Assembly, and now met in Convention, having fully and freely investigated and discussed the proceedings of the Federal Convention, and being prepared as well as the most mature deliberation hath enabled us, to decide thereon, DO in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution, being derived from the people of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power not granted thereby remains with them and at their will: that therefore no right of any denomination, can be cancelled, abridged, restrained or modified, by the Congress, by the Senate or House of Representatives acting in any capacity, by the President or any department or officer of the United States, except in those instances in which power is given by the Constitution for those purposes: and that among other essential rights, the liberty of conscience and of the press cannot be cancelled, abridged, restrained or modified by any authority of the United States.”

        Nothing in the Constitution says it is irreversible. Nice try on the international law angle – Sen Ted Cruz just schooled someone on that fallacy recently. Best wishes.

      • I stand corrected. Still, James Madison, Framer and Virginian, was not in favor of the supposed right to secession.

        Furthermore, we have Jackson. “But each State having expressly parted with so many powers as to constitute jointly with the other States a single nation, cannot from that period possess any right to secede, because such secession does not break a league, but destroys the unity of a nation, and any injury to that unity is not only a breach which would result from the contravention of a compact, but it is an offense against the whole Union. To say that any State may at pleasure secede from the Union, is to say that the United States are not a nation because it would be a solecism to contend that any part of a nation might dissolve its connection with the other parts, to their injury or ruin, without committing any offense. Secession, like any other revolutionary act, may be morally justified by the extremity of oppression; but to call it a constitutional right, is confounding the meaning of terms, and can only be done through gross error, or to deceive those who are willing to assert a right, but would pause before they made a revolution, or incur the penalties consequent upon a failure.”

        Essentially, secession from the Union is a threat to the Union itself and the Union has the right to reassert itself over those parties that are hostile to it and, in this case, in rebellion of it.

        You shall have to produce where Ted Cruz attempts to nullify customs in international law going back to the Treaty of Westphalia.

  9. Well said sir.


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